'We Always Gonna Be Good': Jay-Z Discusses His Relationship With Kanye West In New Interview

In a new interview with the New York Times' T magazine, Jay-Z speaks on creating his critically-acclaimed thirteenth album 4:44, Donald Trump's presidency, rap being a "young man's sport," his adolescence, and so much more.

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Speaking with New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet, Jay-Z also discusses his relationship with Kanye West which, in recent years, has been perceived as awry.

"It's a complicated relationship with us," Jay-Z said. "Kanye came into this business on my label. So I've always been like his big brother. And we're both entertainers. It's always been like a little underlying competition with your big brother...But it's gonna, we gonna always be good."

"In the long relationship, you know, hopefully when we're 89 we look at this six months or whatever time and we laugh at that," the artist continued. "There's gonna be complications in the relationship that we have to get through... I'm sure he feels that I've done things to him as well."

Jay-Z also discusses creating such a personal album alongside wife Beyonce, with his 4:44 being a foil to her very own personal album Lemonade.

"...we were using our art almost like a therapy session. And we started making music together," Jay-Z said. "...it was uncomfortable. And we had a lot of conversations...You know, most people walk away, and like divorce rate is like 50 percent or something ;cause most people can't see themselves. The hardest thing is seeing pain on someone's face that you caused, and then have to deal with yourself."

Below are other talking points discussed throughout the interview. You can read it in its entirety here.

Jay-Z on going into therapy:

 I grew so much from the experience. But I think the most important thing I got is that everything is connected. Every emotion is connected and it comes from somewhere. And just being aware of it. Being aware of it in everyday life puts you at such a ... you're at such an advantage. You know, you realize that if someone's racist toward you, it ain't about you. It's about their upbringing and what happened to them, and how that led them to this point. You know, most bullies bully. It just happen. Oh, you got bullied as a kid so you trying to bully me. I understand.

And once I understand that, instead of reacting to that with anger, I can provide a softer landing and maybe, “Aw, man, is you O.K.?” I was just saying there was a lot of fights in our neighborhood that started with “What you looking at? Why you looking at me? You looking at me?” And then you realize: “Oh, you think I see you. You’re in this space where you’re hurting, and you think I see you, so you don’t want me to look at you. And you don’t want me to see you.”